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You are reading topic "ZEB "The King" ATLAS Rises To The Occasion!" in forum "Favorite Videos / Pornstars."

Cordell
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(Posted 6/20/2008 10:30:00 AM)

This has become the weirdest of the weird. I don't want to see the video. I've seen men cry before and it ain't no big thing. I really don't know what Matt is thinking. He really is fucking up this for himself, for Zeb and for Falcon. It makes it a far less interesting prospect.

This has turned out to be whose fault. It is not Zeb's because he obviously let Todd Montgomery know about Jake. It's not Matthew's fault because things didn't pan the way they should have, and at this point and because of the management change at Falcon, it is not Falcon's fault. BUT it would have been a null and void issue if Matthew had not come here and opened the can of worms, and made the video. It is business and not a lovers quarrel.

It has become a take sides issue.


x69
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(Posted 6/20/2008 10:42:00 AM)

I don't see what the big deal is. All Matthew did was give Zeb Atlas a blow job.

Same thing Jake Cruise did.

There was fucking.


x69
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(Posted 6/20/2008 10:44:00 AM)

Zeb Atlas is no "king". He did not fuck Matthew Rush. He only got a blow job. If he was a king of porn he would actually have sex.


willgold22
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(Posted 6/20/2008 10:58:00 AM)

By the way, I never did get a response from Forest as to why the second scene was to be shot in late July -- Rush even seemed clueless about the weird scheduling -- but now it almost seems like they anticipated trouble and knew there would have to be this long "cooling off" period. I think SOMEBODY was clairvoyant.


David Forest
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(Posted 6/20/2008 11:36:00 AM)

willgold22 -

Sorry I didn't answer your "2nd scene" question, earlier. I may just have overlooked it.

The answer is really simple. They did Part 1 of "Best Men" in Las Vegas. It was several days of shooting. The way the script is written, the character that ZEB plays isn't ready for "full sex" until later in the scenario (Part 2). AND ... Part 2 is (hopefully) being filmed in L.A. in late July. As it now turns out ... maybe they should have shot that 2nd scene in Vegas and been done with it. NOW ... things are VERY strange, needless to say. Rush has done what he can to ruin his relationship with ZEB.

Please remember: FALCON chose Rush to be with ZEB. It was absolutely NOT Zeb's decision, no matter how bad Matthew tries to think it was.

I'd say CORDELL has summed up things real well (as usual, darling ... you're so level headed and so rational ... it's great!). I don't know what Rush was thinking when he began his outlandish antics (postings, video, etc.). He had to be in some strange state of mind. A PRO wouldn't have ever done what he's done. It's going to "queer" the 2nd scene (at least as far as HIM being in it with ZEB). Falcon may have to re-write the script and put in another character for ZEB to have "full sex" with.

DF



cutlass777
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(Posted 6/20/2008 12:52:00 PM)

You know what David? Fuck the scene. Who really wants to see a scene with a guy who's not even comfortable enough to do the fucking scene? You can talk that 2-part bullshit all you want.

The bottom line is this: Zeb Atlas wanted to see what the talk was going to be, and wanted his chance to pull out of the scene if it didn't go the way he wanted (especially after the whole Jake Cruise thing). The scene was never going to happen NO MATTER WHAT. I told you and everyone else that.

As far as why Matt did the video? Like I said, I think he was drunk. Everyone is speculating about him feeling jilted romantically. I say bullshit. The guy already has another boyfriend (no not Ethan K.), if his bigmuscle page is to be believed. I think it was probably more of the money thing that David came here bragging about. Therein lies the rub: you have a gay video company like Falcon willing to pay some guy like Zeb much more than they would pay any other admittedly gay guy just to be "serviced" to perform in a gay video. Why? Because he's not admittedly gay. There's a problem with that. Those of you who support that condescending, self-loathing, self-hating bullshit...well you get what you pay for.

Also, I have never rimmed a guy because it simply seems disgusting to me. Now I'm sure it'll never happen. LOL

This post was edited 6/20/2008 1:44:59 PM by cutlass777.


Porn_review
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(Posted 6/20/2008 1:49:00 PM)

Conspiracy theory: Does anyone suppose this thread and blog was devised so that Atlas did not have to go all the way and only another oral scene was shot. You could argue that they were "supposed" to go all the way but this distracted them.

LOL I dont believe that but it is crazy to film an oral scene and before the rest is shot, this stuff happens.

This is the craziest thread ever. I just dont understand Rush. He says the scene was hot but somehow he feels violated??


M
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(Posted 6/20/2008 2:35:00 PM)

Porn_review, towards the end of the video he says the scene really isn't all that special. He said this with the "I won't lie" qualifier. Which I take to mean any positive thing he's said about the video was said because he was trying to be the good company man.

cutlass777, I agree 100% about the gay for pay thing. I'm normally neutral on this issue, but if the straight guy is elevated above the gay guy, to hell with it. It's not something I'd support.

Take a look at the sales charts. The current best sellers are Fleet Week at no. 1 (cover model Erik Rhodes) and Winter Heat at no. 2 (cover model Roman Heart). This deal is an insult to the gay models who've been selling videos for Falcon.


Cordell
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(Posted 6/20/2008 3:18:00 PM)

I think the scene will happen but I am beginning to believe it won't be with Matthew Rush.

My concern with some of the posters here is that they don't buy videos and watch online porn. So what is their concern? Who told anyone about the money? Someone said someone told him and I don't believe that at all.

What was the highest amount a performer got for doing a video. I think it was Ryker for Ryker's Revenge. I am not certain of that but I am sure Ryker got a huge payday for that.

If Zeb is paid more than Matthew then that is an issue I do not agree with. Matthew is a proven commodity but with all the changes, and rechanges at Falcon who knows what their main concerns are. It probably is just making money.

You may dislike Zeb Atlas but that doesn't make him unpopular. He is very popular else this whole commotion would have been zilch.

As far as Zeb's sexuality is concerned, I don't sleep in his bed. But one thing is for sure, Zeb Atlas has become a hot commodity like it or not.

For the record, I think Matthew feels jilted by Zeb and by Falcon. Even if he is drunk something stung him to make him cry, and something even worse hit him somewhere to make him do that video at all. It is so not the best move in the world.


M
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(Posted 6/20/2008 4:54:00 PM)

David Forest told Mark Adams that Zeb Atlas' salary would be -- exact quote -- "the biggest that any star has ever been paid by that studio for a single movie project."

This was posted by Mark Adams on 6.10.08 here...

http://www.vidioview.com/ViewArchive.html

All this money talk would be a fire-able offense in the real world because it creates precisely the kinds of problems Falcon is dealing with now.

This post was edited 6/20/2008 4:59:36 PM by M.



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