Understood, Matthew Rush still has fans, the scenes and the event in general would benefit from two virgins. With Matthew and Zeb the scene will be noteworthy, but with Tony Mecelli, Vin Diesel, Taylor Saint, Arpad Miklos, or some other top who hasn't bottomed on camera before, the scene and the video would indeed be something special. As it stands, it will probably not be the hit Falcon is probably hoping for.

David, in order for you to "get me going", I'd have to care about what you think. I don't. It just seems so out of place evry time you do it on the board. I know exactly why you do it in articles; so that you can lie and use it as leverage with the companies with your next, biggest, bestest, hottest, straightest, g4payer. That's no secret.

And David, stop being so ridiculous and silly. this movie will not "go down in history". It's 2 guys fucking (which most likely will not happen). It's not the cure for cancer.

Further, you always say that no pornstars post to this board or come here, but now it's publicity? Which is it? By the way, I know for a fact that there are several pornstars here now who post regularly under fake IDs.

Mr. Forest,

Congrats on Zeb. Is it true you are going to jail again soon?

SS

Thanks for the congrats, Steve.

As for your other comment ... all I have to say, is: nah ... just a little "time off" for better health ... Jan!

DF







http://avn.com/gay/articles/30660.html

Atlas to Go All the Way for Falcon

Production of the first project to feature Zeb Atlas in a XXX role is set to begin.

By: G. Zisk Rice
Posted: 06/09/2008

Falcon Studios this week will begin production of the first gay XXX title to feature muscleman Zeb Atlas in a sexual role.

The two-part production will pair Atlas with Falcon lifetime exclusive Matthew Rush for one scene in each video.

Atlas' agent, David Forest, said he is excited about the project.

"This deal puts the spotlight back on the talent, where it should be," he said. "Not since the Billy Herrington deal with All Worlds Video for Conquered in 2001 has a studio gone to the extremes that Falcon has to get Zeb Atlas. The only other big-ticket superstar deals have been for Ryan Idol, Ken Ryker and Jeff Stryker."

This post was edited 6/10/2008 5:24:19 AM by David Forest.

I have never really heard if Zeb in his escorting duties actually fucks his clients. Clients on other boards usually just gush without giving those details but for those guys the fantasy is really about worshipping and servicing a guy like Zeb. AND Zeb does seem to respond to that judging by pics of his recent online foray I guess I am one of those who don't really buy into gay for pay. A truly straight guy could not consistently get it up for other men. I think most of so-called gay for pay are guys who are more in middle of Kinsey scale sexually: bi-sexual who may feel more comfortable in a relationship with a woman but still desire sex with a man.(but this is for another thread)

Not following Zeb around 24/7 I am not sure if he does not have sex with men without getting paid.
If Zeb can show he is into the sex and delivers a good performance and Matthew who is really more into bodybuilder types gives his best performance, this could be hot. BUT usually this stuff is up to the director, they need to really make the performer comfortable and not overdirect and the chemistry between the performers. AND Matt and Zeb in one scene will make muscle lovers faint just at the thought.

Let’s hope that the director takes the opportunity for both of these guys to do some real bodyworship type of stuff with the emphasis being on both of them doing it even if it is spread across two scenes.

As for Matt being the choice, well it seems like Matt has really slowed down on his porn film appearances. Also from a studio perspective, it makes sense to pair Zeb with their lifetime exclusive. Also Matt has only really bottomed twice on film and they have been among his best because they paired him with guys that are his type. I am hoping that the director is able to get Matt to show the same passion with Zeb that he showed then and regularly has shown on his webcam when he bottoms.

Now hopefully Falcon is listening to the comments about the Zeb/Tony pairing and try to tee this up. I agree that such a scene would probably be a better seller than this video considering Tony has never given it up on film.

As for Matt with a black performer, I used to chat with Matt many years ago regularly. He indicated that he wanted a scene like this but intimated that the studio was not really into it. I guess they thought that two blacks in a scene for studios like Falcon does not sell well. Well now that studios such as Raging Stallion has shown that it is not a problem one would think that Falcon and more studios would come into the 21st century. As for Matt's preferences well I agree contrary to what he says, his long list of lovers have been well publicized and they have not included anyone that looks like Marc Williams.. AND you know what that is ok. We all have our preferences. But let's face it Matt is a porn star who gets paid to have sex with guys and he does like built guys so I think that a Marc Williams scene would sizzle whether or not he would date or have Marc as a long-term partner.


For me porn is about fantasy not reality. So if the Zeb/Matt or a future Matt/Marc scene is executed properly then they could be hot. Most scenes are about chemistry and the director capturing that on-screen in the most effective and unobtrusive way. So hopefully there exists enough chemistry between Matt and Zeb to make the screen burn up.

DC, you make a good point: Maybe I've been way too militant about this whole straight, gay-for-pay thing. Polkton wisely brings up the concept of "bisexual", which for some reason I keep forgetting. I totally accept that, and the Kinsey scale that indicates few people are 100% straight. However, I do think the indication of someone's bisexuality should be if they have sex with a member of the same sex without getting paid for it. Have to wonder about Zeb there...

And you know what? I'll give Falcon and Zeb the benefit of the doubt. If they can pull this off, then maybe it will be hot. I'll keep an open mind and see what happens.

eva_nera: "...the Kinsey scale that indicates few people are 100% straight."

I wish people (not just you) who cite the Kinsey scale would keep this in mind:

Kinsey devised this scale to measure reported behavior, not actual sexual orientation. (Kinsey actually rejected the clear divide of heterosexual/homosexual orientation, saying that sexual behavior was prone to change over time and that sexual acts could be separate from sexual attraction.)

The scale went from charting subjects who reported solely heterosexual contacts to subjects who reported solely homosexual contacts.

It didn't reflect what subjects wanted to do, given the opportunity to follow their natural inclinations; it only reflected what acts they admitted to having done. Circumstances and motivations weren't considered.

Therefore, a subject could have been completely homosexual by orientation but forced by circumstances to engage solely in heterosexual sex acts-- and would've been reflected as 0 or "Exclusively heterosexual" on the scale.

However, while the reports state that nearly 46% of the male subjects reported they had "reacted" sexually to persons of both sexes in the course of their adult lives-- which presumably means being aroused while thinking of a male-- only 37% reported having at least one same-sex contact.

This would mean that a majority of 63% fell into the "Exclusively heterosexual" section of the scale (and a majority of 54% reported not even an incidence of being aroused by the same sex), whether they were truly "100% straight" or not.


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eva_nera: "However, I do think the indication of someone's bisexuality should be if they have sex with a member of the same sex without getting paid for it."

I agree totally with this point. Onscreen behavior is no reliable indicator of sexual orientation.

Divine may have eaten dog shit in "Pink Flamingos", but that didn't make him/her a coprophage.

And I doubt even the "gayest" porn star is doing it for free just for the sexual opportunities.

There was one '80s porn star (Jeff Converse?) who was allegedly wealthy and was only in it for the sex, but I bet he took the checks all the same.



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(BTW, eva_nera, let me add I love the classic smut/exploitation DVD reviews you do on that "other" website.)

This post was edited 6/11/2008 1:32:06 PM by Faffy.

I guess if you are hot for Zeb, you'd want him to nail a big beefy guy. But I do think he'd be better off 'deflowering' someone.

Here are some of the "reports/announcements" about the ZEB ATLAS Falcon project from around the net ...


http://www.xbiz.com/news/95105

http://avn.com/gay/articles/30660.html

http://www.gayporntimes.com/hardnews/2008/06/09/falcon-sez-yes-to-zeb-matthew-no-to-oral-money-shots/

http://vincentlambert.blogspot.com/2008/06/news-zeb-atlas-goes-all-way-for-falcon.html

http://queerpornnation.com/archives/2008/06/10/zeb-atlas-goes-all-the-way-with-falcon/

http://muscleforums.yuku.com/topic/6733

http://queermenow.net/blog/zeb-atlas-will-fuck-matthew-rush-in-falcon-movie/

http://www.jrlchartsonline.net/news-zeb-atlas-set-to-star-in-mega-production-from-falcon-studios.php

http://www.lavenderlounge.com/blog/2008/06/zeb_atlas_to_top_matthew_rush.html

http://www.jasoncurious.com/closet/desk/blog/2008/06/poll-of-day-zeb-matthew-sitting-in-tree.html

http://www.atkol.com/replies.asp?forum=3&topic=9939

http://www.vidioview.com/Home.html




I think this is quite creative ...

Faffy says, "And I doubt even the 'gayest' porn star is doing it for free just for the sexual opportunities."

If Jeff Converse ever really said he was in porn just for the sex, well that is a load of hooey. Any man who is hot enough to be cast in a half-decent porn flick is hot enough to find sex off screen.

However, that does not mean they have to be in it solely for the money. I think for a majority of GAY models (and for TRULY bisexual ones), there is a thrill they get from taking pleasure in their own and other men's bodies in front of a camera that is not attainable in "real life." The thrill of knowing your sincere enjoyment and arousal might inspire the same experience in the viewer. Some call it exhibitionism, but labels aren't necessary.

When someone is in it exclusively for the money, gay or bi or straight, it is painfully obvious to the viewer -- well, to this viewer, anyway. I am afraid that may very well be the case with Atlas's scenes for Falcon. I hope I'm proved wrong, but I somehow doubt that Atlas is THAT good an actor.

ADDENDUM: I initially attributed Faffy's quote to David Forest. Apologies to them both for the error.

This post was edited 6/12/2008 3:27:13 AM by willgold22.

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