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Paul Kipp
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(Posted Saturday, December 02, 2000, 8:15:00 PM)

Who's going to watch this show tomorrow? What do you guys think of the American version vs. the British one? Why would middle America care to watch it? When will we get characters who aren't sluts or eunuchs (Will & Grace)? How would you like to see gays and lesbian portrayed in the media?


HandJob
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 7:30:00 AM)

I, for one, am somewhat excited.

I've been following all the homophobic discussion in another thread here -- and agree how awful it is to have two of the actors talk to the press about their tired feelings. Chris Potter used to be one of my sex fantasies -- until he opened his fucking mouth. I guess we get the revenge that he don't look so cute no more!

But still, I want to see the series tonight.

I have been to London more times than any other foreign city and love it. I became aware of the U.K. series immediately after it became a smashing ratings success, and ordered the PAL tape the day it went on sale overseas. I have a friend who has a PAL-VHS converter and I had a party to show the series. My friends could NOT believe what they were seeing from British TV.

I remember writing on another thread about this long ago, that when I got the converted tape, the BF and I popped it in to just watch a quick "preview." Well, we couldn't turn the VHS player off. Stayed up until 2 a.m. to see the whole series.

So I'm pretty primed for tonight's premiere. Natch, have invited our best-friend couple as well as two other good friends for dinner and the show.

From what I've read, the Yank version v. the original: Ours is supposed to have the characters more fully developed, and Showtime hints the sex will be as graphic. Pittsburgh seemed an unlikely place for a setting; I would have thought another city with a larger gay ghetto (NY, SF, Seattle, Chicago or even Atlanta).

And I doubt if much of Middle America will watch it, as happened in the U.K. They groove on Will & Grace, which is fine. Both shows have something from all our lives but those narrow-thinkers who do tune into tonight may believe this is ONLY what our lives are about. That's the only unfortunate drawback, I believe.

—HandJob


Chuckem2
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 7:50:00 AM)

I hope this show dies a very quick death - then Chris Potter and Hal Sparks will be out on the road looking for work again - and then maybe this time they will think twice about their unkind, uncalled for, and derogatory comments about gay men and women.

The only affirmation we give to idiots such as these is by NOT switching the channel to something else.


Buddyboy
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 10:13:00 AM)

I think that's overkill, Chuckem 2. We should hope the entire show dies a quick death simply because we find offensive comments by one of the actors? (Well, possibly two, but I don't think Hal Sparks's comments were that offensive, and they certainly were not meant to be.) That seems to be overlooking the fact that there are several other actors on the show who have said very positive things about gay identitiy, and that many of them are in fact openly gay--as are the shows creators and most of its writers.

Besides, if we were to throw out creative works just because we find the politics or personalities of their creators offensive, we'd lose just about everything. I find D. H. Lawrence to be personally one of the most offensive men who ever lived, but I still teach his novels to my undergraduates because they're terrific. He was immensely homophobic in person, but his novels are often fascinating in their explorations of homoeroticism. Why cast them out because I don't like Lawrence the person? Why condemn the show for Potter's comments when so many of the other actors and creators of the show have said such positive things about gay people, and when the show itself will undoubtedly be such a milestone?

This post was edited 12/3/00 10:34:18 AM by Buddyboy.


EriC1979
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 10:28:00 AM)

There are several Queer
as Folk
parties at the
Universily at Albany tonight.

Marcus and I will be at one
of them!

Obviously I agree with Buddyboy!


ATKOL VIDEO
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 12:13:00 PM)

A strong rating would encourage other gay theme productions to go forward. A weak one would discourage it and we would be considered only attractive to a niche audience.

It is very similar to the Blakc exploitation films of the 60's and 70's. It took a period of time for Black filmmakers to produce the quality product they wanted to.

If the series serves as a catapult then it has served its purpose well.


HandJob
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 11:56:00 PM)

Hmmmm ... I guess I was a little disappointed. It's just the British version with a few minor changes.

But the guys are sure cute, Cute, CUTE!

Since I've seen the original at least twice, there were no surprises. I don't know what I expected, but certainly more than just a re-hash.

Oh well, there's always next week.

—HandJob


kino
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(Posted Sunday, December 03, 2000, 11:59:00 PM)

Saw a preview screening of the first two episodes of QasF yesterday. Frankly, I was surprised. The show is no less sexually explicit than its British counterpart, but the performances are decidedly second rate. Part of what made the original version so successful was the sharpness of the casting and acting. Sadly, in my opinion, that's not the case here.


Chuckem2
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(Posted Monday, December 04, 2000, 12:09:00 AM)

BuddyBoy: I am on my knees and beg forgiveness! I was WRONG - dead wrong. I actually watched QAF tonight and must say I thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it. Not only was the cast cute, cute, cute, to quote HandJob, but the sex was hot - I thought I was watching one of my flicks - and everything else was right on target - the humour was funny, the innuendos right on cue. Overall I was pleasantly surprised. And I'd even be willing to overlook Chris Potter's and Hal Sparks' remarks. I'll be watching next week! Thanks for setting me straight ( so to speak! )


Tony1953
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(Posted Monday, December 04, 2000, 12:35:00 AM)

I watched tonight, also. Despite his public comments, I certainly thought that Hal Sparks portrayed his character sympathetically. If I hadn't read his comments for myself, I would have had a difficult time believing it.

I'm planning to fire up the VCR for this series, unless there are definite plans for a DVD set.

BTW, is the British series available uncensored on DVD?



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