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You are reading topic "Queer as Folk" in forum "Gay-Themed Shows."

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(Posted Saturday, November 18, 2000, 3:25:00 PM)

kino said,

...re the title of "Queer as Folk," I read somewhere an interview with the writer of the series that shed led on the choice. (Maybe everyone already knows this, but it was new to me.) The phrase is from a poem (I think, but can't remember which at the moment) -- something to the effect that "there's nothing so queer as folk . . ." which set a kind of pun: A story about "queers" who turn out to be "folk" like everybody else. Have you (or others) seen the original series on C1TV or on video/DVD? I now I'm off topic, but couldn't restrain myself!

That's alright kino, I fixed it for you, you're on topic now. :)

I read that the title comes from an old saying that goes "there's nowt so queer as folk" from one of those shire places in England and means that people are strange.

And yes, I saw QaF and loved it. I've also had the opportunity to view part of the new American production that's set to air, I think, in early December on Showtime. This was courtesy of a friend who was kind enough to loan me a tape. I can hardly believe that what I saw will actually be shown on American television. If it is, I assure you, it is revolutionary. New standards of on-air acceptability will have been established and gay men will forever be known by their most outstanding characteristic...HOT!

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(Posted Saturday, November 18, 2000, 3:55:00 PM)


The tape you saw was probably the rough cut Showtime recently sent out to some TV critics. If so, you aren't exaggerating about the sexual candor: Apart from no frontal nudity (except a flash from "Brian," the callous gay character), the material in this rough cut is at least as sexually graphic as the UK original. My copy came in a Showtime kit, so while I suppose it is theoretically possible that they may make some cuts, it seems unlikely to me that they would send out material to the PRESS, of all people, if it did not represent their actual intentions.

Let's hope I'm right (for once), because I agree with you, this really pushes the envelope for U.S. television. The only concession that I can see is upping the age of the juvenile principal from 15 to 17.

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(Posted Saturday, November 18, 2000, 5:46:00 PM)

vchip -- thanks for setting up the thread and for setting the record straight (no pun intended) about the original phrase. :) When I read your account, I remembered that it is just as you said. and to you and Johnboy, thanks for the information about the american version. i really enjoyed the brit original, and hardly dared hope that showtime would be as bold. good news.

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 4:21:00 PM)

kino, if you enjoyed the brit version then I don't think you'll have any problem with this production. Even the new actors, when you see them in their roles, have an uncanny similarity to the original players.

Johnboy, I noticed Brian's brief swing, you know I did. I wasn't expecting even that much. I'm going to have to watch the original again to make sure but I'm kinda thinking the sex in this version is even hotter. And the age thing, well, I think they are taking a chance having him be 17 and not 18. They're going to hear about it from certain quarters and I'm sure they know it.

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 6:25:00 PM)

I just read in XY magazine that the actor who plays the blond 17 year old in the series is gay in real life. That makes this production even more appealing in my opinion.

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 7:27:00 PM)

To those who have seen the original - how did you see it? I think it's for sale now, but it's wicked expensive. I want to see it ,but not at that price.

I don't have Showtime, either :(

Aloe, you read XY? you perv. oh, that reminds me, i need to resubscribe. LOL

V, good point about the age thing. Although the age of consent in Maine is 16, so him being 17 isn't a huge deal. but I agree they are going to get it from certain circles, and applaud their dedication. :)

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 8:32:00 PM)

mikal -- visit the c1tv.com site to see info on availability of QasF. i saw it on dvd, and it can be bought ($69.95) in either vhs or dvd format. it was also screened in half-hour episodes by this (c1tv) gay cable network, which has a page listing the various cities in which they're carried and at what times. your nearest is probably boston. does your local cable bring in boston channels? i have no idea; this may be a ridiculous question. :) i think it's terrifically well done. hope you get to see it. the site suggests that it will be re-broadcast, but no dates provided.

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 8:55:00 PM)


If you go to a metro area rental outlet that has a generous selection of gay titles (not porn, just gay-themed), you may very well find that they have the VHS of the Brit version for rent. That certainly is true at certain niche stores here in Atlanta.

Aloe, I knew the "kid" (who comes from musical theatre, so there you are) was either gay or the most uninihibited and intuitive actor in the cast. He certainly throws himself all over Brian and he brings a sensuality to his same-sex love scenes that is missing from some of the other main characters (a little at least). He's quite a find in every respect.

Among other cast members I really like is the guy playing Hal Sparks' roomie, Emmett, another clearly openly gay actor. He plays the role flamboyantly but with surprising and touching dignity. This actor previously is best known for playing the gay immigration official who was ruling on Jack and Rosario's marriage on WILL & GRACE, but he is much more attractive in QAF.

Vchip, yeah, pal, I had no doubt you would notice Brian's pendulous "swing" in getting out of bed. I don't know where this actor hails from, but clearly he has NOOOOOOO problem with getting and staying naked for long periods of filming. And that's a good thing.

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 10:51:00 PM)

Does anyone know if Hal Sparks is family?

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(Posted Sunday, November 19, 2000, 11:44:00 PM)

By all accounts, he's not. I spoke to him recently about this project, and while he is very keen on it, he admitted he still isn't comfortable with the intimate scenes. He does a more than passable job with them, although you can -- I believe -- tell which of these actors are gay and which are straight by the way some of them seem perfectly comfortable casually touching their friends in a scene, the way most gay guys do. Others -- like Sparks and the guy who plays his chickenhawk friend Ted -- seem a little tentative when they touch their buddies.

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