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Terry G.
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(Posted Monday, June 24, 2002, 2:40:00 PM)

What about the Dork Clowns who sang "I'm Too Sexy For My Shirt?"...the Blooming Idiots who wore upside down flowerpots on their heads,as hats in the 80's...and those BarfHeads who sang "The Macarana"...that stupid dance craze? Now, I know why I love Usher and Ginuwine so much....They are Real like P.Diddy!!


X-Nico
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(Posted Monday, June 24, 2002, 3:26:00 PM)

I know I'm treading on thin ice here-- but don't you like any white performers?


Terry G.
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(Posted Monday, June 24, 2002, 5:17:00 PM)

Xnico, I love the white rockers from 60-70's, but none move me in today's music. Thanks, and I understand your comment. I think rock died in the late 70's, as did Country Music. White music is too bland in rock today, and too bubble gum in Country. No true songwriters...I love today's R&B because of it's soul and feeling...Rock and Country seem to have lost that...Thanks for your opinion.


X-Nico
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(Posted Monday, June 24, 2002, 9:33:00 PM)

Terry G.: "Xnico, I love the white rockers from 60-70's, but none move me in today's music."

I have the reverse problem with today's black performers. I love the classic Motown stuff, and Ella Fitzgerald, Nat "King" Cole, Ray Charles, etc. before that-- but rap and the current R&B crowd leave me completely cold.

OTOH, I'm not too thrilled with most white performers since about 1990, either. Some of the female singer/songwriters like Tori Amos were interesting for awhile, but they seem to have blended together so much I can't tell one from the other. Whatever "grunge"/alternative has morphed into by now already lost interest for me by the time Kurt Cobain shot himself.

What I miss are late '70s/early '80s groups like Talking Heads, B-52s, and "those Blooming Idiots with upside-down flowerpots on their heads for hats".

Jeez-- I suddenly realized I don't listen to any current stuff, just oldies.


Terry G.
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(Posted Monday, June 24, 2002, 10:06:00 PM)

Thanks Xnico...I used to work with a guy who would defend those 80's acts.He called me Po-dunk for liking Jerry Jeff Walker and Waylon...I would say "Yeah,The Thompson Twins are not even twins! He would say "Well, the Statler Brothers are not even brothers!" We had a lot of fun with music! And I would get on to him about those flowerpot hats! Man, we would laugh so much about each others music! It seemed to help us understand each other! Some great times. Music can create a bond,even if from different styles and periods. Thanks


DDMorgan
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(Posted Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 7:39:00 PM)

The 80's was a plethora of good music, but as always, you have to look beyond the surface with the following artists still going strong today:

* Marc Almond/Marc & the Mambas/Soft Cell
* Siouxsie & the Banshees (Siouxsie, Severin, Budgie)/The Creatures (Siouxsie, Budgie)/The Glove (Severin & Robert Smith)
* Fleetwood Mac (with the addition of Stevie Nicks & Lindsey Buckingham)
* Depeche Mode
* The Human League
* Blondie
* The Pet Shop Boys
* REM
* Suzanne Vega
* The Smiths/Morrissey
* The Pretenders
* Dolly Parton (okay she started in the 60's, but she's still putting out original material today)
* David Bowie
* Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry
* T-Rex/Marc Boland


Many of these artists have been labeled "alternative" music in the 80's & early 90's--which in many respects they were since they were ignored by most mainstream press (and the record companies didn't know how to market the musical acts either); however, to group these all as simply "alternative" music & take the label seriously is wrong.


X-Nico
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(Posted Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 10:51:00 PM)

DDMorgan: "Many of these artists have been labeled "alternative" music in the 80's & early 90's [...] however, to group these all as simply "alternative" music & take the label seriously is wrong."

Huh? When the majority of the list of performers you just gave originally recorded, they had separate classifications-- soft rock, glam rock, punk, new wave, "synth pop"/"new British invasion", country/western, etc.

They may have started lumping them as "alternative" music today, but during their active period (or original performing days for those still active), certainly, they were recognized as separate genres of music.


squirrel
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(Posted Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 8:41:00 AM)

"the Blooming Idiots who wore upside down flowerpots on their heads,as hats in the 80's"

Uhm, Devo were trend-setters and waaaaaaaay before their time. They weren't afraid to experiment and go outside the norm. The band founder, Mark Mothersbaugh, is now a very well-known music composer and does songs for many popular sitcoms.

While I wasn't a big fan, I recognize them for their achievements.

"I'm Too Sexy" was a tongue in cheek song by two gay men that was worth the laugh when it came out.

While my true love is 70's-80's rock (CCR, Def Leppard, Queen) I still listen to all genres of music (except country, sorry).

And, Terry? "I think rock died in the late 70's"

Ever hear of Pyromania by Def Leppard?

The music did not die with the death of Hendrix, sorry. There have been a lot of great rock bands - Aerosmith, Queen, Leppard to name a few.

The only "rap" I like (feel free to laugh) is Will Smith, Sugar Hill Gang, Vanilla Ice (say what you want, he *had* dance talent for a white boi), and actually like NWA because their music was done not solely to make money but to protest what they saw happening in their neighborhoods. Their music was an outlet for that anger. They didn't just sing "smack my bitch up" or "bakdafukup" to buy a new Mercedes.


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(Posted Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 9:38:00 AM)

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DDMorgan
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(Posted Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 11:39:00 AM)

Alternative music, as it was labled, was an umbrella of many original punk bands--such as Siouxsie & the Banshees--who quickly transcended their own labels the media had given them. For instance, Siouxsie & the Banshees are credited for not only being Punks, New Wave (1980's Kaleidoscope), proto-Goth originators (with Siouxsie & the Banshees' stark appearance along with the 1981 JUJU album)--a label which has stuck with SATB for most of their career. All of these labels fall under the larger label of "alternative music." But even this label seems irrelevent today. Most of these artists are even more underground than ever since the media ignores them completely.

But to simply call all other music "alternative" is missing the point. And you're missing out on most what the artists have to say in their songs.

It always comes back to the music.



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